Terry James

The Rapture Dialogues Interview

A Dark Conspiracy at the Convergence of Prophecy and Alien Technology? Starstream Research interviews author Terry James about his novel, and the truth behind the dark dimension of alien technology and otherworldly beings.

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09/05/2010 03:37 AM CST

(STARpod.org) -- STARstream Research (SSR): Beginning in August 2006, Starstream Research is examining the possibility that the human race is under the influence of otherworldly intelligence. The series will be titled, "Invasion: Earth?" One of the biggest questions that always seems to fire up the most controversy is about the nature of the kind of beings that might pose a threat to the human race. On the one hand there are those who say that UFOs represent EBEs, extraterrestrial biological entities, beings not unlike intelligent life here on Earth that have used advanced technology to visit our planet. Others refer to ultra-terrestrials, or UTs, that have god-like powers to shape and control space and time. In your novel you write about the return of the dark angelic forces, from a Biblical perspective. I am wondering what inspired you to write about UFOs and connect them to Biblical prophecy?

Terry James: First, and foremost, I believe that the Bible is literally the Word of God to His creation called man. Everything I do, therefore, grows from this belief matrix. Unless God’s word tells us that the particular thing referred to is symbolic, allegorical, or to be spiritualized (i.e., a spiritual concept rather than physical or literal). I presume it to be literal. For example, in Rev. 8:8 "And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood…" There, John tells us "as it were". This means it is not an actual mountain, but "like" an actual mountain. Bible prophecy always lets us know if something is not to be considered in a literal sense. And, almost always, if something is used symbolically, it represents a matter that is even more literally existent than the thing symbolically presented. I.e., human language can’t fully encompass its magnitude.

I say all that to say that in Genesis, Chapter 6, the Bible tells us that the sons of God (Benai Elohim in Hebrew –angels who rebelled) came into (had sexual intercourse with) the daughters of men (human beings).
This literally happened. I believe the Bible to be the absolute Word of God, remember…

So, The fallen angels (a number of them) saw and lusted after human women. They had sex with them, and from the unions were produced Nephilim, or "giants" (both physical and supernatural, apparently). This is most likely the source from which some of the legends of the Titans, such as Hercules, and the greater gods of Greek, Norse, and Roman mythologies came.

Now we come forward to Jesus’ time on earth as the God-man come to earth to teach, perform miracles, and die on the cross as the one and only Sacrifice for the Sin of mankind –which came into the world at the fall in Eden.

Jesus said as recorded in Luke 17:26 "And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man."

Jesus –God, Himself—said things just like those that happened in those pre-flood times would recur at the time of His return to earth (which includes the entire "day" of His coming). This means from the time of the Rapture of the Church, through His Second Advent as presented in Rev. 19: 11.

Fallen angels –(Benai Elohim) will again interject themselves into human affairs in the same manner they did in those antediluvian days. This is what I believe we are seeing –and will see in greater profusion in the future—with the UFOs, the abduction reports, the visitations, etc.

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SSR: Starstream Research maintains contact with several government insiders, and their proxies. I can tell you that there are some pretty strange ideas out there, and that the government has explored the paranormal for years. The most well known program was initiated by the CIA and later moved to the various services and the Defense Intelligence Agency. When the program was partially declassified it was known as STAR GATE. One of our contacts in the private sector, an eschatologist in close contact with government consultants and officers still interested in phenomenology, actually suggested that we tell you that Starstream Research was "an outreach front for an insider group connected with national security and phenomenology," and that "Terry should be interviewing us."

Terry James: Fascinating, as Mr. Spock might say. And, I really mean that. If I do a non-fiction on the subject, I will attempt to interview them. And, even with the fiction it would be a good idea.

SSR: How close to reality do you think things are in the novel? 

Terry James: Very close. I base that on everything else that is happening eschatologically. Israel at the center of world-wide controversy (Zechariah 12: 1-3 in the making); the EU at the heart of the geographical area that made up the Roman Empire (Daniel 9: 26-27 Antichrist’s power base?); A peace process involving Israel that will eventuate in the deadly, false peace of Daniel 9: 26-27, (forewarned about in Isaiah 28: 15, 18); Russia and all of the nations and geographical region mentioned in Ezekiel chapters 38-39 coalescing in opposition to Israel to the North (possibly Gog-Magog force?); China as the possible king of the "kings of the east" (Rev 9: 16 / Rev. 16: 12) –these and many other prophetic signals I believe are prevalent in this generation. 

The things involving Jesus’ prophecy about things being like it was in the days of Noah –(the Benai Elohim) most certainly appear to be in the end of days mix. Their influence in the governmental, societal, and scientific/technological areas of our world are, in my view, well underway, and have been even since the Apostle Paul’s day.

He wrote –under inspiration of God:

Ephesians 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

Very close, indeed.  

SSR: In your story, government officials are possessed by fallen angels in exchange for technical assistance, the reverse engineering of alien technology. Obviously the military is always looking for the next major technical advantage, and once found will tightly protect it. Do you think there is a conspiracy -- the government, or someone, covering up the truth about the UFO's, etc? 

Terry James: At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy kook, I must answer yes  – to some extent. This based, again, on Ephesians 6: 12 above.

God’s Word says this struggle is supernatural –and that is even more literal than simply a physical reality. These interlopers are eternal –according to God. They will never die, or be destroyed, even when cast in the lake of fire in their ultimate fate.

So, believing God’s Word as absolute Truth, I have to believe they are presently intertwining themselves with government and science in clandestine, dark project areas. How aware governmental officials –in the black, covert regions, or other—are in these things, I wouldn’t conjecture. But, someone, somewhere, has to know something is beyond what we consider normal. 

SSR: One of the first things you learn from investigating the government's efforts in tracking strange phenomenology, like UFOs and ESP, is that the truth is almost always stranger than any fiction you can imagine. I am wondering if you had any personal experiences that inspired your story? 

Terry James: No. Unless you consider my belief that God sparked the idea that it’s time to do something on the topic. I don’t mean that I was inspired in the same, miraculous way prophets or other writers/speakers of the Old and New Testaments were given inspiration (through visions, dreams, etc). But, God does give His children ideas from His Mind, and expects us to do something with them. In that sense, I guess one might say I had the experience of having been given visceral understanding that these things are here, and they are again moving among us as in the days of Noah. –i.e., literally wanting to again mix with the "seed" of mankind. 

SSR: Starstream Research recently ran a story about Ingo Swann, a psychic consultant who worked with the military to train their psychic spies. Swann claims that he was taken by a black ops UFO group to observe a UFO in northern Alaska. He describes an object that appears as if from nowhere out of a fog illuminated by colored lightning bolts. Swann says the object appeared to grow in size and then began to shoot beams into the woods. Some of his description fits the classic nuts and bolts UFO alien hardware, but there is also the impression that the object emerged from another dimension before manifesting here in our world. If you don't think these UFO sightings, etc. involve extraterrestrials, what are they then? 

Terry James: I’ve already answered this above, I think. They are interdimensionals – specifically, angels that fell with Lucifer in his original rebellion in Heaven.  

SSR: How can we distinguish between really advanced, amazingly advanced beings, biological or computer, and angels? 

Terry James: That might be the satanic seduction most difficult to discern. That’s why it is essential for humans to be close to God. He provides Spiritual Insight. He’s the only One Who can. God, the Holy Spirit, the third Person of the Trinity.

One gets this ability to discern by accepting Jesus Christ –God’s only Son, Who is the Second Person of the Trinity—as Savior from sin. Otherwise, discernment –understanding of such things –in my view (which I believe is the Bible’s View) is not fully possible.

The scripture from 1 Corinthians tells us:

2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 

SSR: Do you believe these beings -- whatever or whomever they are -- are about to invade Planet Earth? 

Terry James: They have long ago invaded earth. They have never left since they left their "first estate" Heaven. Read Jude 6-7. But, they are scheduled to step up their demonic activity exponentially during the Tribulation era (last 7 years of human history before Christ’s Second Advent). 

SSR: One group of former and present government types interested in the UFO question is known as The AVIARY. Part of the legend involves what is called the "core story" about contact with otherworldly beings. One of the rumors surrounding the core story involves a "disturbing message" that was given to our government. I have seen emails that state that the former Director of Central Intelligence, Richard Helms, was familiar with the "core story" and confirmed to a well-placed government consultant that it was the same story heard by members of The AVIARY. There has been a lot of speculation about the content of the message, and I'm wondering if you have any thoughts about what might be so disturbing that the government keeps it away from those without a need to know, including heads of intelligence and the President? 

Terry James: One never knows when such stories are factual, or if they are –to exactly what degree. I presume that if Satan, the most brilliant of all diabolist generals, is leading his forces amongst the clandestine operations within governments, he would delude the human element within the operations into believing they were privy to things that are above average citizens to know. And, they would have to kill us, if they told us. 

SSR: You use some real, historical characters in your novel. For example, President Lyndon B. Johnson, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, Dr. Edward Teller, the famous physicist and inventor of the H-bomb. How did you determine to use them? Do you believe, or not, that some of these things really might have happened, regarding these historical personalities? Are there modern day figures that might play a part in your future efforts? 

Terry James: I was quite familiar with the things going on –so far as the U.S. Air Force was concerned, during the period I used as the nucleus of my story in the novel. LBJ, McNamara, etc., were in the positions of power at the time. Teller was perhaps the key dark, Strangelovian figure of science within that era –Einstein, Oppenheimer, etc., having passed from the scene. 

For example, I was stationed at Randolph AFB near San Antonio for more than 3 years during my enlistment. LBJ flew into that base in Air Force One at least once a month, to then take a smaller plane to Bergstrom AFB near the Johnson Ranch. A guy’s mind can run wild with such memory fuel!

Yes, I believe that both Johnson and McNamara would want to know about these things. But General Lucifer would be quite clever in keeping them from full knowledge. And someone like Teller would almost certainly be used by the minions to operate in the physical world, as liaison between that realm, and whatever other.

Yes, I’m working on the second of the series now. I have already, and will use other real people of this late generation of government and scientific people in a fictional way. The next will be titled "The Rapture Imperative: Dark Sentences". 

SSR: Recently the Air Force commissioned a research paper from Dr. Eric Davis to review the nascent scientific field of quantum teleportation and spacetime wormholes. We are a long way off from developing teleportation as a real technology, but you write about a similar technology in your book called RAPTURE. What is the acronym's meaning? 

Terry James: R.A.P.T.U.R.E. This is Rapid Atomic Particle Trans-molecular Unification Reassembly Energizer. (Like on the Starship Enterprise, of course –the Tele-transporter).

Are you sure it’s a long way off? –Maybe so…

But, of course, it’s a particle physics technology idea in acronym form that is meant to make the linkage to the great Prophetic Event we believe the Apostle Paul wrote about in 1 Cor. 15: 50-55 and 1 Thes. 4: 13-18. This is the Rapture of the Church (The Church being defined as all born-again believers in Jesus Christ).

This was the key theme of my friend Tim LaHaye, and Jerry Jenkins series of novels -- "Left Behind."  

SSR: In his paper Dr. Davis also discusses research in China using human paranormal teleportation. Do you believe that this kind of paranormal effect is real? 

Terry James: That is in the area of astral projection, and remote viewing, etc. I believe these to be deluding mind-tricks by demonic activity, not something sanctioned by God. I do believe, however, that the nearer we come to Christ’s Second Coming, Satan and his minions will have increasingly powerful influence to delude. 

SSR: Nick Bostrom is a heavy-weight world-class philosopher at Oxford. In recent years Bostrom has stirred up quite a lot of controversy by arguing that human beings might be living in a 'simulated universe'; in other words, what we call reality is the creation of a higher intelligence, and we are the creations of that same intelligence.

In his popular paper Bostrom writes, "An afterlife would, of course, be a real possibility for a simulated creature (who could either be continued in a different simulation after her death or even be "uploaded" into the simulator's universe and perhaps be provided with an artificial body there). Your fate in that afterlife could be made to depend on how you behaved in your present simulated incarnation ... If we are in a simulation, is it possible that we could know that for certain? If the simulators don't want us to find out, we probably never will. But if they choose to reveal themselves, they could certainly do so. Maybe a window informing you of the fact would pop up in front of you, or maybe they would "upload" you into their world."

The Rapture is also a prophetic belief that you share with others who have written fiction recently. For example, Tim LaHaye, co-author of the 65 million selling "Left Behind" series, who has given a strong endorsement to "The Rapture Dialogues." How does the technology -- RAPTURE -- mesh with the 'Rapture,' the prophetic belief? 

Terry James: When millions disappear in the Rapture (based upon the prophecy by Paul mentioned above,) the world will be frantic, searching for answers.

Another prophecy – 2 Thes. 2: 11-12 foretells that God will allow a great delusion to fall upon the minds of those whom didn’t believe in Christ for Salvation before this event (the Rapture). This will be during the Tribulation era –the Apocalypse found in Revelation, Chapters 6-19.

This "delusion" will be a great lie the Antichrist and his regime of horror will perpetrate upon the world (read Rev. Chapter 13).

The "delusion," many –including yours truly—believe will be part of the lie about what has happened to those whom disappeared by the millions.

Part of this lie will be that the catastrophe was due to the intervention of "space brothers," or some other such term. These people were removed –perhaps the story will go—because of their unbelief in the tenets of humanism –that Mankind can solve its own problems. Antichrist, of course, will have the answers, being the ultimately evolved man.

Later he (Antichrist) stands in the Temple, declaring Himself to be God, and demanding worship. This is found in 2 Thes chapter 2, and Rev. chapter 13.

The RAPTURE technology might be explained (in the sense of my fiction) as the instrument that removed these millions. Or, the disappearance might be explained as this technology causing some great particle physics accident – creating a watershed event that produces –at long last-- a quantum leap into Aquarius, or some such nonsense.

As you see, my mind is still fuzzy on how I plan to use the fictional technology as the story continues… 

SSR: Technology always seems to be a two-edged sword. In "The Book of Genesis," the fall of mankind comes about with the knowledge of good and evil. Technology has brought about many advances that have improved our lives, yet major scientists, like Sir Martin Rees, are warning that the negative side of technology may bring about the end of mankind. What are your thoughts about how to best use technology and avoid the consequences of the ever-growing potential for misuse? 

Terry James: Again, the Bible has the appropriate answers –including the answer to avoiding the misuse of the technology God has allowed mankind to develop.

Pro 9:10:  The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.

If a person is tapped into God’s Wisdom through a personal belief in His Son, Jesus Christ, understanding of how to avoid potentially deadly consequences are spiritually visceral. 

SSR: "The Rapture Dialogues" moves quickly from scene to scene, and would be easily translated to film or television. I am wondering if there are any plans to adapt your novel for the big or small screen? 

Terry James: I’ve been told it has the swift movement of film. That certainly would be something I would enjoy having done with the novel. I would love to talk with someone interested in such a project. 

SSR: The novel ends in a cliffhanger that begs a sequel. Do you plan other novels or a series on this theme? 

Terry James: As I answered above, I’m working on the second of what I hope will be 3 novels in the series. The second I give the tentative title: "The Rapture Imperative: Dark Sentences," and the third "The Rapture Protocols: Dark Days." 

SSR: I wonder if there is anything else you might wish to add for the benefit of our readers? 

Terry James: The most important things to watch, prophetically speaking, are developments surrounding the nation Israel. Therein lies the most profound signal of where this generation might stand on God’s Prophetic Timeline. The Rapture Dialogues: Dark Dimension deals with the same dark spiritual forces (of Ephesians 6: 11-12) that are involved in fomenting the hatred against that nation.

I’m quite gratified that the novel has received more than eighty-five, five star reviews on amazon.com. And those reviews come from all over the nation as well as a number of foreign nations.

My partner in the raptureready.com website (which is the most visited prophecy site on the net,) invite your readers to visit. There they will find a voluminous amount of free material dealing in depth with matters of Bible prophecy, as well as many other Christian resources.

The "Rapture Index" –part of the website-- has been written about in Time Magazine (cover story 2002), The Rolling Stone, The New York Times, The Chicago Tribune and many other national publication, It has also been presented in network TV on ABC, CBS, NBC, as well as cable TV forums like CNN, Discovery, The History Channel, and many others. In fact, Paula Zahn of CNN included the website and The Rapture Index in her July 28th broadcast, and on June 6, 2006, the website received more than 1 million hits. Have your readers check it out.

The Rapture Dialogues: Dark Dimension at Amazon.com

The Rapture Ready website

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